WW2 Family Photos

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@TriggerHappy when I got to the rear my priorities was shower, hot chow, and sleep before we headed out again. Filling out paperwork was to be avoided!

Of course now that I am older I wish I had done some of the paperwork…

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#23

If you guys are interested next time I get down to the museum I can take some pics of a few of the family artifacts on display there?

I still have my fathers aluminum canteen and cup that took a Chinese submachine gun round in Korea and saved his life! (And enabled me to be born!) :grin:

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#24

@oldmanonthemountain Your knowledge on this clearly exceeds mine. Am I correct in my understanding that my dad arrived there just before the official end of the battle? And at the end of the citation it mentions they captured one of “the enemy” and I read somewhere there were only 200 officially captured out of the 20,000(?) Japanese that were on the Island. Was there really only 200 total captured or would that figure have been just during the main battle? Weren’t they literally capturing more of them for months or more afterward??

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#25

@TriggerHappy I am sure Michael can give you more details but the answers to your questions is YES!

The Japanese soldiers adhered to the Bushido code that held that capture was dishonerable and death preferable.

They dug in and continued to fight for months after Suribachi was taken and the battle was clearly lost.

The same was true on Tarawa, Okinawa, and other island capaigns.

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#26

here is the link to the article in SOF magazine for your family archives

yes, your father arrived on Iwo Jima just days before the official end of the battle, but the 147th continued combat operations for weeks afterward. As was common, the upper command announced that Iwo Jima was officially “secure” on March 26th, yet your father and his regiment continued to fight and die for weeks afterwards

your father and his unit had the task of cleaning out the remnants of the Japanese defenders isolated in their caves and tunnels - I’ll not go into their tactics of clearing tunnels in this posting - and I’m sure your father never went into specifics

my father participated in the strategic bombing of Germany and Romania in '44, but never mentioned it
Dad was a career weapons officer on Strategic bombers in WW2, Korea and Arc Light in Viet Nam
he never spoke of these days. He was on the SAC alert crews during the cold war. When I told my freinds that we used to have lunch with my father on weekends, passing food through a barb wire fence, they assumed he was in prison. The families of the SAC alert crews would gather outside the fence of their secure area… The alert crews were not allowed to come home at night - they lived in barracks just of the alert paddocks for the B52s.
I once asked my father where he would land after he bombed Russia - with a sad face, he informed me the '52 never carried fuel for a return trip - once past Fail Safe - it was a one way trip!!
depressing thought to tell a 10 year old

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#27

@oldmanonthemountain Can’t thank you enough for the information and that link which I will read with great interest! I remember my dad talking a lot about tunnels and flame throwers and satchel bombs and sometimes pouring aviation fuel down the tunnels and not lighting it so it would foul the air and make it uninhabitable, but I agree, I’m sure he held much back from me - he would just call them “horrors nobody should ever have to experience”. I think explosives were his specialty, and when I was kid he still had a blasters license that he used once in a while for work to break big up boulders that would fall into an irrigation ditch.

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#28

glad you enjoyed the information

my father never spoke of his war experience, but growing up on Air Force bases, I heard the stories from visitors to our home

When I was in the Air Force, I learned he flew with the air group of the OSS during WW2, landed in Occupied France once before D-Day to pick up OSS personnel he navigated a captured JU-52 into France on that mission

his last mission for the OSS was the night before D-Day, June 5th
we all know the landings were a success, because the Panzer units were not able to get into Normandy because the bridges were blown behind the beachhead the night before the Invasion.
My father was dropping French explosive specialist onto these bridges the night before the Landing

there is now a book about Operation Carpetbaggers, but here’s a quick link
https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/carpetbaggers-the-air-arm-of-the-oss-in-europe/

I spent 10.5 years in the Military, 6 of those in the Air Force. I heard more stories of my father from his squadron mates than I ever heard from him

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#29

@oldmanonthemountain I have always enjoyed American history, have spent years evaluating old military weapons and collecting the stories that went with them.

It is sad that history is being rewritten and sanitized…our military heritage museum gets complaints about our displays, that we promote fascism and nazis because we display WW2 trophies brought home by Americans!

We even were threatened with a lawsuit over our missiles (actually aircraft drop tanks). :angry:

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#30

Cool thread.
My father was a Cpt. of a B-26 Marauder in WWII. Mostly bombing harbors, and trains in Italy. I told him about the Memphis Belle movie, and he was like whatever. After 25 missions they became classified. After 52 missions they sent him home for battle fatigue (PTSD now a days). Those planes back then were a work out just to fly.

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#31

LOLL
I watched Memphis Bell with my father also
he wasn’t as polite as yours in his opinion of this Hollywood rendition of WW2 bomber operations
as he stated vulgarly, no squadron EVER went around for another try at the target
if the target was obscured, they went for their secondary or just dropped in the countryside
I believe my father only went on 10 or less daylight bomber missions
after his squadron was decimated and only 3 plans returned, his unit was disbursed and he joined the OSS unit for night flights.
I had thought in my younger days he returned to the States after just 25 mission in June, 44 to stay, but here is his wedding photo from Oct, 44. You will note 2 hashmarks on his left sleeve, signifying 2 tours of combat
I have no idea what he did on his second tour - and WHO volunteers to go back for a second combat tour over Europe??
by 1944, the regulation was 150 hrs or 50 missions, crews out of England had longer missions, so they got their 150 hrs usually at the 25 - 30 mission mark - in the Mediterranean, with shorter combat missions, the number of missions was more
you will note my mothers wedding gown was made from my father parachute he wore in combat - common for AAF officers of the time
my sister still has that gown

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#32

this is an example of our WW2 history removed
back when I moved to Portland in 1981, there was a unique landmark in Milwaukee, Or called Bomber Gas Station
a WW2 B17 was supported over the pumps on pylons
I used to drive over there to fill up my car, just to park under the plane

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#33

My father didn’t even watch it. I thought it was a good movie. It made me respect even more what he went through. I’m sure what he went through was even worse. Most of us will never truly understand what any WWII service member went through. BTW Godspeed President Bush. Salute

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#34

Hollywood has a bad habit of taking honest stories that are amazing in themselves and ruining them.

Heaven forbid you let things like details and accuracy get in the way of making a movie!

Just ask me about the “jarhead” movies! :angry:

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#35

@TriggerHappy that is totally awesome.:+1::+1::+1::+1::+1::clap::clap::clap::clap:

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#36

I just can’t wrap my mind around that kind of thinking. In what world would those things have no value or meaning. Stymied I am…???..??

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#37

@Johnksg As I recall one of them came out years later in the 60’s ?

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#38

@DivaMarie it was actually 1973 if I remember correctly. He had been fighting a one man war against the Philippines.:astonished:

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#39

@Johnksg :+1: My Hero’ I knew if anyone would know it would be You !:smile:

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#40

I remember how he and four men followed their last orders. They raided villagers, had gun battles with police. Over time his comrades died.

And even though he had killed several villiagers and cops over the years the Filipino government returned him to Japan.

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#41

What a Trip ! and The Home coming in Japan ?

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