Greetings to all. I have been reading with interest all of your valued input. I would like to toss my two cents in. Briefly, 54 laps around the sun, junior NRA in high school with all the “dangles”. Military brat. One tour of duty Air Force (try not to hold that against me, my brothers all know we have the hottest military tail and chow!! =)) That being said. I live in central Fl and go visit my old man in South St Pete, I am very comfortable with my 1911 and a couple mags. ( Years ago). With the influx of population here it has become, well , worrisome. I have to drive for appx 1 to 1/12 hrs to get to my fathers house in Gulfport. Down I-4, the most dangerous road in the US I have found out. Cross over I75, pass through I275, Tampa, cross the bridge to St Pete then south to Gulf Port. I have had to modify my comfort level a tad. Would I take the Sub into combat? No offense to anybody but please don’t be silly. However, with the mcarbo mods and having intimate knowledge of the platform by revamping several for other owners. I find that the sub combined with my G19 make a reputable urbanish survival pkg. Kind of like jumper cables and a spare gas can in the car. There is likely no disputing the G19 for proven. I do like the added bonus of a .357carbine (ballistically speaking) should for some reason I need to work my way home from St Pete. I am a single dad of two. My “armory” is based on two premises. Efficiency and applied application. (As best as I can) SHTF, mobility is key. Having 10k rds of 556 is wonderful, that gives the aggressor appx 9k rds of free ammo when they overtake your position. Hint, have a case of ammo to throw in your get out of dodge transportation and perhaps another case cached. I prefer redundancy ( plz realize, just my opinion). I have a wonderfully light and accurate bolt action carbine that weighs next to nothing for sustenance. Perfectly capable for two or four legged at 200yds. Even with a magical Leupold, the best I can efficiently work with my peepers. This is backed up by a “sporting” rifle of the .30cal variety in case things get “sporty”. This is my premise with the sub and my G19. I can reach in my daily bag and whichever gun, mag, I grab, they all work! I truly do love the simple design of the sub. What would I do to make it supreme? Laugh if you will, but if I had access to and the skills, I would CNC either and aluminum alloy or even Ti “grip housing”. Would it then become a combat weapon? IMO, …no. Would it step up a notch in the “new” world of overpopulation, just trying to get to work and then back home. I think so. From all the input from you guys and much you tube videos I think in the end, the Sub is exactly what it was intended to be. Thank-you for your time and God Bless. If you don’t believe in God, thats ok, may God Bless you, more! =) Pyrat, out.