Since I have tried the Kel-Tec I now want to see what else is out there. Looking at the Ruger 9mm carbine and PSA AR-9. Does anyone have any experience with either of these rifles?
No personal experience, but I was eyeing the Beretta CX4 Storm, if I hadn’t gotten my Sub. The Ruger with Glock mags is probably a better choice, but the Beretta has style. Trigger pull is heavy, but Sierra Papa can fix that for a price.
I’m betting you’ll be missing the cool folding aspect that keeps it in one piece. Personally, I have no need for a rifle that breaks down into two pieces. More to keep track of. LOL
Saw a guy shooting the FX-9 and it looked pretty good.
Gave my father an AR 9mm Pistol from PSA for father’s day. It’s just like the others but punches a larger diameter entry hole (easier to see on paper). And it’s quieter. If it isn’t obvious, ARs don’t excite me.
I shopped the Ruger, but decided on the Sub 2000 for 1. faster deployment, 2. lighter weight and 3. easier packing. In another couple years, I expect a heck of an aftermarket for this one but the speed of deployment will never touch the Sub 2000’s.
Enjoy your trials but I predict you will miss the Sub 2k. It defines its own rifle classification.
If by “others”, you mean the other carbines mentioned in this thread, how does it punch a larger hole than anything else that fires 9mm? LOL
Ah, must mean 5.56 ARs.
from my experience, the 556/223 punches smaller holes on paper, my 22lr punches bigger holes on paper due to the diminished velocity. maybe its my 1/7 twist rate on my AR…
Yeah, keyholing will definitely make a bigger hole. LOL
I have a FX 9 and it’s great to shoot . Well built and has last round bolt hold open. It uses Glock magazines also . I’m a big guy and it fits and feels good when holding . It’s nice having another 9 mm AR pistol that share same mags and caliber as my sub 2000.
@Pete71 sorry to hear the sub gone. But the PCC craze is BOOMING right now. PSA Makes a great pcc, for what it is: a base to build upon. You can add what you want to it just like any other AR platform. If you can find a 16” barreled PSA rifle is snatch it in a heartbeat if it were less than $800. They sell out in minutes when they actually have them. CZ scorpion great rifle, exotic, similar to the sub 2k and starting to drop down into the $900-$800 range a lot of fun but lacking in aftermarket internal upgrades. I’ve heard the ruger PCC is a 10/22 ruger that accepts Glock mags basically. I’m seeing them on sale in the low $400’s could be a lot of fun.
This is coming from a competitive shooters stand point. What you’re willing to spend is what you’re gonna get.
@Matt I’d be interested in running the new Draco NAK-9 if they made it in rifle form simply for the cool factor. I have zero experience with it and I’m simply wanting it based on looks alone because the first rule of anything is to look cool
High end there are other PCC’s that deliver excellent performance
$1,300 sig MPX high performance , a lot of fun, friendly to left and right handed shooters, a lot of aftermarket parts coming online for this rifle
$1,400-$1,600 MBX PCC a guy a know that creates the gold standard magazine for competition shooting has just start producing a great PCC at a fair price. He wanted to create an out of the box, high performance STI of the pcc world. The genius is the rifle barrel is 14 1/2 “but with a compensator welded on makes the barrel 16”. Custom trigger, custom buffer system, you select the color and the trigger style. One of these rifles will be my next purchase.
2k + lead star arms, JP rifles ; basically the Gucci guns, the Daniel defense of pcc. Status symbols.
“Why yes…this IS a JP”. Yawn
You know PSA is also rolling out their own MP5 clone at around $1100 at the start of next year?
Yep seen something about that a while back. I’ve never had a problem with PSA stuff. I have a blem .556 lower from them and couldn’t find the defect.
Just like vortex , PSA also warranties any of their products for life, no questions asked. Stand up guys. I own a PSA AR as well. I’ve only ever put 3 rounds through it though. (I’m busy with PCC)
I love my PSA 16 inch patrol rifle. Never had a single problem with it.
I have the Ruger PC9 Carbine. I like it, but it is not a fun as the Sub 2000 or as compact. I do like the ability to use Glock magazines. I bought the Muzzle Brake from MCarbo and put it on the PC9. The Military Arms Channel did a review of it and it looks like Ruger could pretty easily introduce a new barrel, some small things and turn it into a 10mm! Wouldn’t that be awesome! Perhaps MCarbo could beat them to it!?!? @ChrisNelson should perhaps look into it. That would be a great new project for them.
I have a PSA AR-9.
I love it. I had a minor issue when I first received it. Sent it back and they repaired the problem. I have run steel, aluminum and brass through it. No problems.