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PMR 30 will not fire

I can’t get my PMR30 to fire and will M Carbo install the new trigger kit bundle

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Is this a new out of the box problem or did this just develop?? If it is a brand new one I’d be more likely to contact Kel-Tec and have their warranty department take a look at it.

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@hvac Welcome to the Brotherhood Mark. Mcarbo installs their parts but due to the Covid-19 crap it might be a while. E-mail them. Don’t own a PMR30 but others here do. Need a little more information. Exactly what are you doing and what is it not doing?

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The gun is a couple years old, probably about 200 300 rounds threw it, I’ve contacted keltec and waiting on a reply

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Welcome to the Brotherhood, Mark. I could be wrong but it sounds like a broken firing pin to me. If it’s a couple years old and you’ve pulled the trigger multiple times without a snap cap or empty case, that’s a common breakage.

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@hvac welcome to the forum mark

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That’s very well possible

Thanks

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I don’t know if Keltec will sell you the firing pin but I know I saw a YouTube video on how to replace it so I know it can be done. At the least, you can take off the top and see if that’s the problem or not.

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Welcome to the show HVAC

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Kel-Tec will sell you the part.

https://www.keltecweapons.com/collections/parts/pmr30/

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@hvac They will send you the new firing pin and get the new Locator block at the same time’ Watch the ‘‘U’’ Tube video as per the roll pin removal of Same! under $20. Easy Easy Repair’ Unless you want a 3 Month plus! Turn round on having them do it’ Still waiting on Repairs on mine. :expressionless:

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Hey Mark any news?

Screws too tight , trigger travel adjusted wrong.

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I got a PMR-30 a few weeks ago and out of the box it did not feed and jammed, about 40% failures.
The slide was very difficult to pull back and the slide release took two thumbs and lots of force to release.

I took it home and looked at it, the fit and finish is a big issue. Contamination in the paint, too much internal painted, burrs.

  • I cleaned out the slide channels with a fine angled file, upper and lower, not much, just enough to clean out the channel and get the slide to move properly.

  • Filed the catching corner of the release, this video shows it. https://youtu.be/RmHb45vH8yA?t=130
    I used a steel diamond nail file and took several passes, reassembling each bit and tried it until I had it where I liked, now it is very nice, a bit of pressure to retain and releases like a Glock.

  • Pulled the firing pin and found a puddle of nasty oil in the channel, cleaned that well. Took the firing pin and used 600 grit Emory cloth and polished the flats and cleaned the edges.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNZuuvJOBdY and removal - https://youtu.be/Y5hUXEdQZl8?t=103

  • Reassembled with NO oil , this is a blowback, so the firing pin area is quickly contaminated by blowback, oil attracts dirt, so no oil. (Oil like a Glock, just the slide rail areas and minimal)

  • I ordered the Mcarbo “Enhanced magazine release” to remove that .040" inch drop of magazine at chamber/pick area. If you observe the slide in action, it only catches about 25% of the next round, with the Mcarbo mag catch it goes to about 33%. https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-pmr-3…e-release.aspx
    Changing it took about 3 minutes with no disassemble of lower receiver. Take out screw, pull pin, pull factory mag release, use 1/16" tubing (about 2" long) to hold spring ends together, reinsert the new mag release with spring in rough position, use hemostats to assist in holding spring, and install pin and screw(s).

  • Also order a good loader, I got the loader by American Speedloader, or the lula pmr-30 speed loader is highly regarded as well. Hand loading over 20 is hard and causes damage to shell casing very easily, use a good loader
    Nest loader: https://www.ebay.com/itm/PMR-30-SPEE…72.m2749.l2649
    Magula loader: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021153869?pid=896872

It’s working really good now, pretty much at zero percent failures. I am adding the stainless feed ramp and will polish it, I think the poly factory ramp will no doubt get a groove in time due its very nature of the material, so that is for prevention more than current resolution of feed issues, but it will help with different types of ammo.

This all took a few hours, but it is as reliable as any auto I have and fun to shoot, I love to fireball out of the muzzle!

So far, I’ve shoot 200 rounds through it, without the new ramp and zero failures. And used 3 types of ammo, 2 CCI’s and Federal.

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new out of the box? take it apart and CLEAN it, pull the firing pin and clean it, check for burrs, clean up the slides, re-assemble with NO OIL other than the slide contacts.
Yes, you should have to do it to new guns, just to learn how it works and make sure it isn’t packed with shipping oil/grease. That has always been a standard with guns. Only of late have we become an “instant gratification” society and want everything perfect or fixed right away. It’s a gun, manufacturers build them and grease them up to prevent rust, because NONE of us want that, rather have oil in it and do routine cleaning before using. If you own a gun, you should know how to take it apart and put it back together, this will have to be done every time you use it, well if you give a crap about its longevity.

Not saying YOU or attacking YOU personally, but this is getting to be an annoying new attitude with new gun owners.

Add the Mcarbo enhanced magazine release, that will solve your issue. Factory pick of a round is about 25% of the rim, the enhanced release will increase that to about 33%.

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A heads up try Hornabys Dnya-Glide plus.
It’s the ticket for the PMR 30.
Do your Pmr 3 times like instructions.
Then the last leave the lube on all parts.

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yes, that is great lube, have some for the reloader, will try it on the Keltec’s. thanks!

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Have been Using it for years on the 4 pmr’s I’ve got Along with the 2 tcm’s I have and No More Failure to Feed or Other Issues,Back when Armscore didn’t have a Factory Stateside and were not Lubing Case in Final Stages of Production.

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what parts are you lubing on the PMR?

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