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@Dred @ENTroPicGirl
Yep, just the pistol, SBR no problem.

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Well canceled that order just in time.

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Still ordering something different just not sure what I want.

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I use these on most of my stuff:

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It doesn’t matter to gun grabbers - it’s “scary”. Actually, it doesn’t matter to them what kind of firearm it is - nobody should have guns but criminals and politicians… but I repeat myself.

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@AV8R GREAT summary. I will just note that if you do not remove the strap or otherwise modify the brace, the concept of “situational” use is broad enough to drive a truck through. “The recoil was hurting my elbow so the situation required that I shoulder it, etc.” That does not mean some RSO or someone else who does not understand the current ATF stance will not cause a problem.

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@JoeFridaySays

Exactly,
Rule #1 Do Not Modify The Brace!! :flushed:
There are a lot of folk out there who are not aware of the pistol/ brace concept or the ATF interpretation of the law.
It’s like everything else, educate yourself, be aware of the law and try to stay within the law when building these pistols.

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@ENTroPicGirl

I keep thinking about your SBR. I think it is the ultimate bait gun.

'Bout 10 years ago, I didn’t know better. Pops bought an AWB Olympic Arms OA-98 (side charging AR 15 with no buffer tube. Naturally, it needed a vertical grip 'cause it was heavy. So, I did what I do and added one. Took it with me to at least 4 different ranges and was never questioned or warned. Fast forward a year or so and I’m landing at Pop’s place to indian give that vertical grip.

I figure you can have a veritible festival running that SBR as configured. Your femininity will draw out all the old cowboys to explain why you can’t configure it that way. The brace screams pistol but the tax stamp makes all us helpful cowboys plain wrong.

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@JoeFridaySays

Easy fix there, once the Form 1 is processed and the Tax Stamp is received, install a stock in place of the brace.
That and maybe stencil “SBR” on the lower receiver. :joy:

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That is an astute observation Dred, Though from my perspective. My femininity cost me $200<400+ and months of pacing because when I go to the range I get unwanted attention.
I had considered that I could forgo all the tax stamps and pull my spaghetti strap top down low and bat my eyelashes and claim ignorance, I mean I am blonde. How ever it’s hard to believe when ya take a closer look and realize it was all guilt from an 80 lower and solvent trap kit. Hard to claim total ignorance when it looks like a great amount of intent and skill went into the build.

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just got an Email saying they are out of stock on Adams Arms .300 blackout pistol length conversion kits and to expect a refund, think I’m gonna use the money making the GF happy, buy her some tritium sights or something.

Think this is a sign; or at least that’s all interpret as, it’s time that I don’t spend huge amounts of money on this build. Last night I thought, hey maybe I should get a Law Tactical folding stock and a quick takedown system to remove the barrel.

I believe it’s time for an intervention.

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Well here it is August 2020 and ATF is again apparently crafting secret rules restricting the possession of certain pistol braces by American Citizens.

Congressman Matt Gaetz has announced and has sent them a letter demanding they stop. The letter addressed to Attorney General William Barr and ATF Acting Director Regina Lombardo, was co signed by Republican Reps. Neal P. Dunn, Bill Posey, W. Gregory Steube, John Rutherford, Ted S. Yoho and Daniel Webster.

This and a lot more information is all covered in a well wrirrem article by David Codrea in this months (August 2020) Firearms News magazine pages 84 and 85.

At this time no response has been received.

We all should stayed alerted to this subject. First bump stocks then red flag now more to come.

I have no affiliations with the magazine but I will tell you it stays on top of firearm news and other useful information about firearms.

Larry

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@LarrySr

Interested to hear what braces they are going after as you used the word “certain”?

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I’ll be honest I couldn’t care about bump stocks at all because they are wildly unpredictable in their performance people like a bum socks just should’ve bought a binary trigger or drop the coin and get a select fire lower. No I’ve actually removed my pistol brace and changed it out with a skeletonized mortar plate from Double Star Tactical returning my brace back to its original host, Micro Ronin stabilizer.

If I were to make a guest I think the next thing that’s probably gonna be on the chopping block it’s going to be 80% firearms and binary trigger’s and pistol stabilizers, I also foresee some sort of ban on AR’s, we might wind up like the UK with a pull bolt Variant only.

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Dave

The article used that word.
It is a long article and did say the letter contained this:

" We understand that ATF is currently considering restricting one arm brace model owned by 700,000 Americans [and] strongly urge ATF to cease taking actions and reconsider or rescind any secret determinations which call into question the legality of firearms owned by millions of law -abiding"Americans"

Larry

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Pic girl
That’s great.
If we continue to let them nit pick us to death we will end up like the uk.
Good luck with that.

Larry.
PS I think bump stocks are stupid but some firearms owners don’t.

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Only if we let them.

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There is no such thing as an 80% firearm, it’s a piece of metal until such time as it made into a firearm.
Pistol stabilizers fall under the Americans With Disabilities Act. Going to be tough to do much about them without stepping on that law.

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Congress just passed red flag laws for ex-military hidden in the spending bill – with R support. Trump threatened to veto it but they came back with a veto-proof majority.

Those vermin politicians haven’t been tarred and feathered in a LONG time and it shows. About the only way to get rid of them is primary them out, and it’s way too late in THIS election cycle to do that. Who knows what other perfidies they commit before the next election… unless voter fraud gets the D’s majorities in both Houses and possibly the presidency. At that point, there won’t BE another election.

Never forget your vote is critical, from local dogcatcher, the school board (especially important), all the way up to President.

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    A group of scientists placed 5 monkeys in a cage and in the middle,

a ladder with bananas on the top.
Every time a monkey went up the ladder, the scientists soaked the rest of the monkeys with cold water.
After a while, every time a monkey went up the ladder, the others beat up the one on the ladder.
After some time, no monkey dare[d] to go up the ladder regardless of the temptation.

    Scientists then decided to substitute one of the monkeys. 

The 1st thing this new monkey did was to go up the ladder.
Immediately the other monkeys beat him up.
After several beatings, the new member learned not to climb the ladder even though he never knew why.
A 2nd monkey was substituted and the same occurred. The 1st monkey participated on the beating for the 2nd monkey. A 3rd monkey was changed and the same was repeated (beating). The 4th was substituted and the beating was repeated and finally the 5th monkey was replaced.
What was left was a group of 5 monkeys that even though never received a cold shower, continued to beat up any monkey who attempted to climb the ladder.
If it was possible to ask the monkeys why they would beat up all those who attempted to go up the ladder … I bet you the answer would be … “I don’t know — that’s how things are done around here” Does it sound familiar? (Congress?)
It’s time to vote all of Congress out and start over.

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