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Cutting Edge Bullets


Thank you for testing the Sig 365 ammo and getting the speed data out of a S2K.
If you have the capability to test another type of round also. It is called Cutting Edge bullets. They have blades that sheer off into a star shape cavity. Here are some more details.
Cutting Edge Bullets 9MM PHD (Personal Home Defense)

Here is a video: (Start at :45 into the video. The beginning is just braggart hunting footage.)

These are the ones that are $33 for a box of 20 count.


LOL … don’t waste your money. Death by a thousand cuts is slow, messy and most importantly it is less likely to immediately stop a closing BG.

Now … if you want to put them in my hands I’ll chrono them but I ain’t likely to buy them. If you are interested in alternative solutions, look at the Extreme Defenders Underwood is loading. It’s a CNC’d solid that produces devastating wound cavities but are basically undamaged when recovered. I have the qued up to investigate but mine are 10 and 45 so not Sub2k friendly.


got just the 9mm bullets to load to std velocity for the sub 2 on the way… maybe some subsonic loads to try out…
so far got em as far as the defender in 45 and 9X18 MAK penatrators in 45/70 gvt…


@GOBLIN I respect those rounds and there is no question that they are great penetrators. That is my concern though. I have little ones in the house and don’t want through the wall variables to worry about. Just into 2 legged varmint and stop. And if there is a miss, not penetrating multiple layers of drywall. I can’t wait to get out to the farm and get those melon, ribs, tee shirt, denim, leather jacket, Jack Harell style tests done.


@Gatekeeper that used to be my concern as well, to the point i scooped up a roadkill deer, stood it up in front of a mockup sheetrock wall, and tried different rounds till i settled on the one that did the most damage to the chest cavity, without any penetration to the wall, from 10 to 20 feet.
at that time, the only one i found for the 1911, that wouldnt blow thru was the Glaser Blue tips. thats been my ammo for in the house situations, since 1998 not the best ammo by anymeans, but the best for my situational requirements…(grandaughter then in 2001 girldchild) over penetration / wound characteristics were my main concern. now, granddaughter is grown and has her own protection ( Sig) girlchild is 17, has her own as well,and off to collage in less than 2 years, Im starting to revamp now as those constraints wont be on me 24/7 anymore. but i fully understand your situation, been there.


@GOBLIN @Gatekeeper
I know it is all about the SHTF… I just pray that I will NEVER have to use a firearm! The entire ‘mess’ of the situation and then having to deal with it ‘emotionally!’ I just don’t ever want to have to endure ANY of it!


In complete agreement. I am more worried about the “fight” that would come after the fight. Legal, Civil, and all the other mess that would go with it… For defending your family in your own home.
I think of it as a fire extinguisher . I have a couple and hope I never have to use one. Because if I call 911 it may already be too late before help arrives. i.e. fireman, police, or EMT. That’s why CPR is so important to know. Never know when you may have to sustain a life during heart attack or stroke before more advanced medical help arrives. You family’s safety if first and foremost your own responsibility then count on social resources for support.


I just couldnt resist…:smiling_imp::smiling_imp::smiling_imp::smiling_imp::smiling_imp::smiling_imp::smiling_imp: