M*CARBO Brotherhood

ATF Form 1 Help and Guidance

Here’s what I know. These are the fields I’ve filled in.
I’m filing as an individual. Personal info is excluded.

1:a ✓ Tax Paid.
2 ✓ Individual
3:b Legal Name and Address
3:d County
3:e Phone Number
3:f Email Address
4:a Name and Address of Manufacturer
4:b Type of Firearm being made, (SHORT-BARRELED RIFLE)
4:c Caliber, (7.62 x 25)
4:d Model Number (PPS43-C)
4:e Barrel Length (9.8 INCHES)
4:f Overall Length (24.2 INCHES)
4:g Serial Number
4:i Why? (ALL LAWFUL PURPOSES)
4:k Reactivated? ✓ No
7 Signature
9 Date
11:a-h ✓ No
12 Passport Photo
13 SSN and DOB
14:a Ethnicity ✓ Not Hispanic or Latino
14:b Race ✓ White
15:a Country of Citizenship ✓ United States of America
15:b State of Birth (FLORIDA)
15:c Country of Birth (UNITED STATES OF AMERICA)
15:d-f.1 ✓ No
15:f.2 ✓ N/A
17 UPIN? ✓ No
20 Payment Info

Are there any other fields I need to complete?
I’m unsure about 4:h and 8. Should these be blank?
I think as an individual, 18 and 19 should be blank.

There are two more sections that are copies of the ATF Copy.
One is to be sent in and returned to the applicant, I think.
The other is to be sent to applicants local law enforcement.
Is all of this correct? Is there more that needs to be done?

One more question. The overall length is with the stock folded.
Should this be estimated with the stock unfolded?

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@ValorSolo
Charles,
On my Form 1:
4h is blank.
8 has my name presumably as the builder.
Length of firearm was recorded as 27.5” so that would be stock at full length (mine is a collapsible stock)

Hope this helps.

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Yes, a copy to LPD or Co. Sheriff (if you live in an un-incorporated area)

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I know it is meant to be an estimated number, so I can just add 8" to the folded length.
It would be a felony to build it just to measure. LOL. Or in my case, unfold it to measure.

I’ll hand deliver it to the Sheriff’s office. Gotta get the photo taken as well.
Oh, what about a fingerprint card? Didn’t see that on the form anywhere.

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That can be done at the local PD or your local Class 3 guy probably for a fee.
A lot of places are doing electronic prints theses days.

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I’ve had it done at the court house here. Wasn’t sure it was needed.
I figured it would be, just wasn’t sure.

@AV8R and @Festus, Thanks for helping.

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No worries Charles, good luck with the process.

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Maybe this thread can help others as well.

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Had mine done at a UPS Store, electronic. Oddly, I couldn’t use that same scan for my CCW application. That had to be done at the Sherriff’s Dept.

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Is that a Florida requirement for all builds, or just because its SBR?

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@Stircrayzy
It’s a Form 1 for a SBR.

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I’m SBRing it so I can use the stock as intended. Stupid laws.

Courthouse is the only option here.

Correct.

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Have you looked at a Gun Trust? It gives you a little more flexibility. Especially if this is your first NFA item.

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I’ve done a bit of research on the matter.
Seemed easier to go as an individual.

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You have to form your trust, then the only difference is getting an extra form notarized I believe. But you have more flexibility to pass down items, and you can add other people if you choose to do that to have full access to toys. I haven’t done it yet but I have my trust paperwork done just need to get it notarized and then do the form 1.

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Finally found a FFL that had fingerprint cards. Had to go to UPS store for the prints.
Paid $23 each. No passport photos yet. Plan on getting that done today.

This process should be made much easier. One office that does it all.
Walk in, fill the form, get printed, take photo, mail it in. Simple as that.

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You’re correct.
In my case my LGS does all of the necessary paperwork and fingerprints and keeps it all on file digitally. They charge $100 per Form 1 or 4 unless the item was purchased there, then it’s free.
To me it’s totally worth the $100.

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It’s easier just to an E-File Form 1 application. I’m doing 3 of them right now,you just set up an account,then fill in the online application,upload your photo and pay online. They will email you a couple documents to mail to them with your fingerprint cards,and a copy to send to your CLEO.
I just went and got my fingerprint cards (6) done today at the sheriff’s office.

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That part is easy.

That part can be difficult especially in the current environment.

Thankfully he doesn’t have to sign it anymore.

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Yeah, I called around to several LE agencies and they said they aren’t doing it right now.
Back home in my little county, the Sheriff office would do it, but they don’t have cards.
Anyways, I’ve got it all done and mailed off. Already in about $100 so far.

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